Here, Banfield reminds fellow attendees of the conference on Democracy and the Constitution that the American Founders conceived of two forms of happiness, individual and national happiness, and that the earliest Americans imagined humans as selfish yet also expected those who served in office as statesmen to rise above their selfishness in pursuit of the common good. Banfield notes this dualism raises interesting questions, such as whether we can judge the motives of voters who cast ballots self-interestedly.

Banfield speaks for several minutes starting at 37:32: https://www.c-span.org/video/?2990-1/democracy-constitution

This event also featured Robert A. Goldwin (American Enterprise Institute), Professor Benjamin R. Barber (Rutgers University), Professor Terrence Marshall (University of Paris), Judge Abner J. Mikva (U.S. Court of Appeals, District of Columbia Circuit), Edwin Yoder (Washington Post), and a young Charles Krauthammer (Syndicated Columnist).

Banfield apparently first collaborated with Robert Goldwin in 1957, when Goldwin edited a series of didactic short stories for the American Foundation for Continuing Education. Banfield wrote three stories for them.

Goldwin (1922-2010), it must be noted, was the editor and author of many books on governance issues, including AEI Press “constitutional studies” volumes like as How Federal Is the Constitution? (1982) and Separation of Powers: Does It Still Work? Tributes to Goldwin may be found here.